Beth,<br><br>No way. The translations always come out wrong. I've actually got more forthcoming on the topic, but again all in Portuguese. I really should work some of it out in English.<br><br>One point I made in a sermon recently was that power is a funny thing. Every time someone things he or she has found a position of power, the discovery is made that the power isn't there. Worse still, one often finds that the journey to power is deeply corrupting.<br>
<br>Adam G.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Phil Wyman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pastorphil@salemgathering.com">pastorphil@salemgathering.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style=""><div>Adam,</div>no translations? darn. Send me a link. I've got a guy in the church who will translate for me.<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><div><br><div><div>On Oct 21, 2008, at 10:58 AM, Adam Gonnerman wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">I wish you could read the things I've written lately about the powers, but it's all in Portuguese.<br><br>Adam G.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Phil Wyman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pastorphil@salemgathering.com" target="_blank">pastorphil@salemgathering.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div> Wow - my silly comment, which was a response to David's comment has made a point.<div>
<br></div><div>No one responded when David said he would leave if McCain won, but now people respond when I say I will leave if Obama wins. I may have to blog about the unhealthy and growing anti-Republican bias in Christianity. I can't help but wonder if the polarization of our politics is far more deadly than even (what we perceive to be) the worst of candidates. Is staying and praying effectively any different than leaving? Both are evidence of the polarization our nation is captured in. The fact is that George is not our problem, and Obama or McCain are not our solutions. Maybe Ben Stein is though - just kidding.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Wanting to be involved in meaningful politics somewhere, and not finding it at home,</div><div>Phil</div><div><div></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 21, 2008, at 8:44 AM, Sonja Andrews wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite">Oh ... now Phil ... none of us left the country when W won. Many of us stayed and prayed for him.<div><br></div><div>Just a thought ...</div><div><br></div><div>pax, Sonja</div><div><br></div>
<div><br><div><div>On Oct 20, 2008, at 10:13 PM, Phil Wyman wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div> Jonathan,<div><br></div><div>Are you up for pulling the list together as well? I will not be able to put the time into it since October is upon me, and the 4th is too close to end of Halloween in Salem.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Oh, and I will be out of the country if Obama wins. ;-) The Isle of Man sounds nice and remote. But Cymru would give me something real to politic about.</div><div><br></div><div>Voting for Ben Stein methinks.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Phil</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 20, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Jonathon Brink wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"> <font size="4"><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Julie,<br>
<br> Yes. I'd love to see how many people we can get in on this one. Please feel free to invite your friends.<br> <br> Jonathan<br> <br> <br> On 10/20/08 1:39 PM, "Julie Clawson" <<a href="mailto:julieclawson@gmail.com" target="_blank">julieclawson@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br> </span></font></font><blockquote type="cite"><font size="4"><font face="Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Hi -<br> <br> I'm in on leadership. Is the post date Nov 4?<br> <br> - Julie<br>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br> <br> Leadership sounds like a great topic. I'm in too.<br> Rejoicing in the journey -<br> Bethany<br> <br> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 5:44 AM, kathy escobar <<a href="mailto:kathy@therefugeonline.org" target="_blank">kathy@therefugeonline.org</a>>wrote:<br>
<br> > sounds great, i'm in. looking forward to it, kathy<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > *From:* <a href="mailto:synchroblog-bounces@p2ptrust.org" target="_blank">synchroblog-bounces@p2ptrust.org</a> [mailto:<br>
> <a href="mailto:synchroblog-bounces@p2ptrust.org" target="_blank">synchroblog-bounces@p2ptrust.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jonathon Brink<br> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:48 PM<br> > *To:* Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers<br>
> *Subject:* Re: [SynchroBlog] Topic for this month?<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > Adam,<br> ><br> ><br> > That's what I was hoping for. The concept of leadership is broad and can<br> > be in any different vein, but Nov 4th will have everyone thinking about it.<br>
><br> > Jonathan<br> ><br> ><br> > On 10/19/08 7:29 PM, "Adam Gonnerman" <<a href="mailto:igneousquill@gmail.com" target="_blank">igneousquill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > If it is just "leadership" that's great, because it could go in a lot of<br>
> different directions (political, in the family, in church, etc etc etc).<br> > I'm "in."<br> ><br> > Adam G.<br> ><br> > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Sonja Andrews <<a href="mailto:sonja@paxunum.org" target="_blank">sonja@paxunum.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br> > I love this idea ... maybe focus on the notions that form the basis of<br> > transformational leadership?<br> ><br> > pax, Sonja<br> ><br> > Sent from my iPhone<br> ><br> ><br> > On Oct 19, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Jonathon Brink <<a href="mailto:jb@thriven.org" target="_blank">jb@thriven.org</a>> wrote:<br>
><br> > How about a Synchroblog on leadership that comes out Nov 4th? It wouldn't<br> > have to be about the Presidency but instead about what we are asking for<br> > from our leaders. Something like that.<br>
><br> ><br> > On 10/19/08 11:46 AM, "Steve Hayes" <<a href="mailto:hayesstw@telkomsa.net" target="_blank">hayesstw@telkomsa.net</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Are we having a Christian synchroblog this month?<br>
><br> > Topic?<br> ><br> ><br> > Much Love<br> ><br> > Jonathan<br> > Thrive Ministries: <a href="http://www.thriven.org/" target="_blank">http://www.thriven.org/</a><br> > 916.952.0934<br> ><br>
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