[SynchroBlog] She's like that....

Thu Mar 22 13:20:52 GMT 2007

It seems we are all being challenged and stretched by the synchro blog
conversation... David says that he's sure God is 100% in this and that both
scares and excites him; 

- Mike says yes "She's like that"

Amen

But let us keep on praying for one another for wisdom and for protection, I
know I am not the only one whose job could be on the line, sorry if that
sounds ultra cautious- but it is a real concern....also I am a great
believer in the mission and calling of the church no matter how much it
irritates me at times, I have a number of disaffected commenter's who read
and are encouraged by my blog- and hope to show that church is relevant to
both faith but also the mission of God in the world... simply aggravating
leaders etc is sometimes unwise... just me thinking out loud here!

Having said that I also believe that the mission of God is wider than the
Church, and we are called to break the box open- how on earth do we hold the
two in tension????

Any thoughts gratefully received! 

Sally

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   1. Re: Fwd: The story... (David Fisher)

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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:13:20 -0600
From: "David Fisher" <DFisher at GroupPublishing.com>
Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
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[mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:57 AM
To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...

On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 09:38 -0600, David Fisher wrote:
> Hi,
> I commented on your post.  :-)
> Just to be clear the controversy was from the 'love' post.  Isn't that
ironic?
> Although I'm sure this most recent one would have done me in, just as
well.  ;-)
> 
> But again, I'm excited about what God is doing.  Behind all the s*(% is
God moving and that scares and excites me.

She's like that.  :-)

-Mike.

> Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> 
> "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> 
> David Fisher
> Resource Consultant
> 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> Psalm 27:4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Matthew Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:56 AM
> To: 'Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers'
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> 
> Well in that case ... I put something else up on
http://mattstone.blogs.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org] On Behalf Of David Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2007 8:46 AM
> To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> Don't remove anything for me.  I can be as provocative as I want now!
> 
> Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> 
> "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> 
> David Fisher
> Resource Consultant
> 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> Psalm 27:4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:42 PM
> To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> 
> http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/
> 
> The post's now up.
> 
> Please comment.  I'm happy to remove things for David.  Probably not for
> anyone else.
> 
> David - if you're happy to provide more information, feel free to do so.
> It sounds like you don't want to make a fuss, but it's your call.  I,
> for one, am up for it.
> 
> -Mike.
> 
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:27 -0600, David Fisher wrote:
> > Hey Mike,
> > What's your blog address again?
> > 
> > 
> > Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> > <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> > 
> > "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> > 
> > David Fisher
> > Resource Consultant
> > 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> > Psalm 27:4
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> > [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:27 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> > Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> > 
> > 
> > Correction:
> > 
> > <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/">Synchroblog: guilty by
> association</a> at Mike's Musings
> > 
> > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:23 +0000, Mike Bursell wrote:
> > > Next synchroblog: persecution?  It would seem appropriate.
> > > 
> > > I'm also going to do an emergency synchroblog now, talking about this
in
> > > the abstract - not mentioning any names.
> > > 
> > > <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/">Synchroblog: guilty by
> > > association</a> at Mike's Musings
> > > 
> > > -Mike.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:11 -0400, Phil Wyman wrote:
> > > > Hey SynchroBlog Team,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here's some info about David being removed from a ministry position
> > > > because he was connected to us.  Yikes!  Anyway, he's doing fine,
but
> > > > it makes you think doesn't it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Phil
> > > > 
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: "David Fisher" <DFisher at GroupPublishing.com>
> > > > > Date: March 20, 2007 11:38:34 AM EDT
> > > > > To: "Phil Wyman" <pastorphil at salemgathering.com>
> > > > > Subject: The story...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > > Feel free to pass this to the other synchrobloggers.  I deleted
the
> > > > > previous emails and don't have it to send to everyone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you know (and how I found out about you and your story) I was
> > > > > having some difficulty with the church I was involved in.  We had
> > > > > been running the second service "Revolution" geared initially
toward
> > > > > College and young adults.  Although that was still pretty much our
> > > > > demographic, the vision expanded to begin to reach more 'fringe'
> > > > > groups in our area.  Fort Collins is very spiritual but not very
> > > > > Christian.  Although not like where you are I'm sure!
> > > > > We said and did something's on our blog...mostly questioning
church
> > > > > hierarchy and women not being in leadership that some people at
the
> > > > > first service didn't like.  Oh, and our heart to reach the
> > > > > Gay/Lesbian community with love; rather than throw scripture at
> > > > > them.
> > > > > So we shut down our original blog to keep the peace within the
> > > > > ranks.  Our focus was on Revolution and not the blog world anyway.
> > > > > Well, my wife is the blog queen and she had several people ask her
> > > > > to do something underground and maintain the relationships we had
> > > > > with them.  I also was posting on her blog, but just started my
own
> > > > > when the other one shut down.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The problems still lingered from a blog that no longer existed but
> > > > > to their credit, the leadership of the church defended us
mightily.
> > > > > Until Thursday...
> > > > > Apparently someone was digging for us because they found my blog,
> > > > > and my wife's underground blog!  I felt like a kid with his hand
in
> > > > > the cookie jar, but at the same time, it was obvious that someone
> > > > > had it out for us.
> > > > > I sat in a coffee shop with the staff while they said that they
love
> > > > > us and were the best leaders they have, but they want us to
> > > > > temporarily step down from Revolution so they can steer the ship
in
> > > > > the right direction.
> > > > > They felt that the links I had on my blog (the synchroblog links)
> > > > > among some comments I had made about the ineffectiveness of the
> > > > > Evangelical Church were not what a leader should do.  150 pages of
> > > > > blog copy and they found 4 or 5 things they didn't like and none
of
> > > > > them were doctrinal or theological statements.
> > > > > So that night I prayed and talked to my wife.  We knew this was
> > > > > coming anyway, but I was expecting this summer, not last Thursday!
> > > > > And under less duress.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We figured it was time to get out.  So I told the head pastor on
> > > > > Friday that we will step down and make an easy transition and we
> > > > > will never come back.  I wasn't mad, but I knew in order to
preserve
> > > > > the unity of the church, I couldn't stick around.  And of course,
> > > > > Revolution needed to become Revolution and follow what God had
given
> > > > > us.  He agreed and thru some strange conversations trying to hash
> > > > > everything out, Sunday we both made the announcement that we have
> > > > > mutually agreed that I and Makeesha would step down.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The College Service will turn into a normal young adult
evangelical
> > > > > right wing charismatic service, and Revolution will go to whatever
> > > > > the heck it's supposed to be.
> > > > > www.betherevolution.wordpress.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now it's the awkwardness of people from the first Revolution
trying
> > > > > to find out where they land.  Most are with us.  A few are with
them
> > > > > (yuck..us versus them) and many will still try and do both, which
is
> > > > > okay, because they'll find out which one fits their heart the best
> > > > > as we all move forward.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hate the emotions involved in all this, but I am very excited
for
> > > > > what God is doing and for our future of Revolution and the
> > > > > community...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David Fisher
> > > > > Resource Consultant
> > > > > 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> > > > > Psalm 27:4
> > > > > 
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