[SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...

Wed Mar 21 16:13:20 GMT 2007

LOL

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"The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost

David Fisher
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Psalm 27:4

-----Original Message-----
From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
[mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:57 AM
To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...

On Wed, 2007-03-21 at 09:38 -0600, David Fisher wrote:
> Hi,
> I commented on your post.  :-)
> Just to be clear the controversy was from the 'love' post.  Isn't that ironic?
> Although I'm sure this most recent one would have done me in, just as well.  ;-)
> 
> But again, I'm excited about what God is doing.  Behind all the s*(% is God moving and that scares and excites me.

She's like that.  :-)

-Mike.

> Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> 
> "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> 
> David Fisher
> Resource Consultant
> 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> Psalm 27:4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Matthew Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 7:56 AM
> To: 'Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers'
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> 
> Well in that case ... I put something else up on http://mattstone.blogs.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org] On Behalf Of David Fisher
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 March 2007 8:46 AM
> To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> Don't remove anything for me.  I can be as provocative as I want now!
> 
> Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> 
> "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> 
> David Fisher
> Resource Consultant
> 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> Psalm 27:4
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:42 PM
> To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> 
> 
> http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/
> 
> The post's now up.
> 
> Please comment.  I'm happy to remove things for David.  Probably not for
> anyone else.
> 
> David - if you're happy to provide more information, feel free to do so.
> It sounds like you don't want to make a fuss, but it's your call.  I,
> for one, am up for it.
> 
> -Mike.
> 
> On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 15:27 -0600, David Fisher wrote:
> > Hey Mike,
> > What's your blog address again?
> > 
> > 
> > Our AWARD winning HANDS ON BIBLE here:
> > <http://www.group.com/handsonbible>
> > 
> > "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> > 
> > David Fisher
> > Resource Consultant
> > 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> > Psalm 27:4
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org
> > [mailto:synchroblog-bounces at p2ptrust.org]On Behalf Of Mike Bursell
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 3:27 PM
> > To: Mailing list for the SynchroBloggers
> > Subject: Re: [SynchroBlog] Fwd: The story...
> > 
> > 
> > Correction:
> > 
> > <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/blog/">Synchroblog: guilty by
> association</a> at Mike's Musings
> > 
> > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 21:23 +0000, Mike Bursell wrote:
> > > Next synchroblog: persecution?  It would seem appropriate.
> > > 
> > > I'm also going to do an emergency synchroblog now, talking about this in
> > > the abstract - not mentioning any names.
> > > 
> > > <a href="http://www.p2ptrust.org/">Synchroblog: guilty by
> > > association</a> at Mike's Musings
> > > 
> > > -Mike.
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2007-03-20 at 14:11 -0400, Phil Wyman wrote:
> > > > Hey SynchroBlog Team,
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Here's some info about David being removed from a ministry position
> > > > because he was connected to us.  Yikes!  Anyway, he's doing fine, but
> > > > it makes you think doesn't it?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Phil
> > > > 
> > > > Begin forwarded message:
> > > > 
> > > > > From: "David Fisher" <DFisher at GroupPublishing.com>
> > > > > Date: March 20, 2007 11:38:34 AM EDT
> > > > > To: "Phil Wyman" <pastorphil at salemgathering.com>
> > > > > Subject: The story...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > > Feel free to pass this to the other synchrobloggers.  I deleted the
> > > > > previous emails and don't have it to send to everyone.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > As you know (and how I found out about you and your story) I was
> > > > > having some difficulty with the church I was involved in.  We had
> > > > > been running the second service "Revolution" geared initially toward
> > > > > College and young adults.  Although that was still pretty much our
> > > > > demographic, the vision expanded to begin to reach more 'fringe'
> > > > > groups in our area.  Fort Collins is very spiritual but not very
> > > > > Christian.  Although not like where you are I'm sure!
> > > > > We said and did something's on our blog...mostly questioning church
> > > > > hierarchy and women not being in leadership that some people at the
> > > > > first service didn't like.  Oh, and our heart to reach the
> > > > > Gay/Lesbian community with love; rather than throw scripture at
> > > > > them.
> > > > > So we shut down our original blog to keep the peace within the
> > > > > ranks.  Our focus was on Revolution and not the blog world anyway.
> > > > > Well, my wife is the blog queen and she had several people ask her
> > > > > to do something underground and maintain the relationships we had
> > > > > with them.  I also was posting on her blog, but just started my own
> > > > > when the other one shut down.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The problems still lingered from a blog that no longer existed but
> > > > > to their credit, the leadership of the church defended us mightily.
> > > > > Until Thursday...
> > > > > Apparently someone was digging for us because they found my blog,
> > > > > and my wife's underground blog!  I felt like a kid with his hand in
> > > > > the cookie jar, but at the same time, it was obvious that someone
> > > > > had it out for us.
> > > > > I sat in a coffee shop with the staff while they said that they love
> > > > > us and were the best leaders they have, but they want us to
> > > > > temporarily step down from Revolution so they can steer the ship in
> > > > > the right direction.
> > > > > They felt that the links I had on my blog (the synchroblog links)
> > > > > among some comments I had made about the ineffectiveness of the
> > > > > Evangelical Church were not what a leader should do.  150 pages of
> > > > > blog copy and they found 4 or 5 things they didn't like and none of
> > > > > them were doctrinal or theological statements.
> > > > > So that night I prayed and talked to my wife.  We knew this was
> > > > > coming anyway, but I was expecting this summer, not last Thursday!
> > > > > And under less duress.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > We figured it was time to get out.  So I told the head pastor on
> > > > > Friday that we will step down and make an easy transition and we
> > > > > will never come back.  I wasn't mad, but I knew in order to preserve
> > > > > the unity of the church, I couldn't stick around.  And of course,
> > > > > Revolution needed to become Revolution and follow what God had given
> > > > > us.  He agreed and thru some strange conversations trying to hash
> > > > > everything out, Sunday we both made the announcement that we have
> > > > > mutually agreed that I and Makeesha would step down.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > The College Service will turn into a normal young adult evangelical
> > > > > right wing charismatic service, and Revolution will go to whatever
> > > > > the heck it's supposed to be.
> > > > > www.betherevolution.wordpress.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Now it's the awkwardness of people from the first Revolution trying
> > > > > to find out where they land.  Most are with us.  A few are with them
> > > > > (yuck..us versus them) and many will still try and do both, which is
> > > > > okay, because they'll find out which one fits their heart the best
> > > > > as we all move forward.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hate the emotions involved in all this, but I am very excited for
> > > > > what God is doing and for our future of Revolution and the
> > > > > community...
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "The way out is to be led by way out people." Mike Frost
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > David Fisher
> > > > > Resource Consultant
> > > > > 1-800-526-0404 ext 4337
> > > > > Psalm 27:4
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
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